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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:11 pm    Post subject: Alvarez,Fernandez,Gomez, Pueblos Morcin, San Sebastian,LaFoz Reply with quote

I would like to find any information possibly regarding:
The Town of Morcin - Asturias
The Town of San Sebastian - Asturias
The war that pushed many to send their young sons to the Americas during the years 1910 – 1914 approximately, what war was responsible? Is there a list, organization or other forum to find out more about this?
Surnames of families in Morcin, San Sebastian and vicinities Alvarez/Gomez/Fernandez
Why would my grandfather list and mention Oviedo as his place of birth when he was born in Morcin

What I know about my ancestry in Asturias is as follows:
Amador Alvarez Alvarez was my grandfather
He was born in Morcin on April 24, 1900
At the time of his birth the family may have lived in La Foz
He emigrated to Cuba at age 13
Arrived in Cuba on May 1, 1913 on the steam boat Alfonso XII

His parents were cousins:
Father: Emilio Alvarez born in San Sebastian
Emilio was the son of Jose Alvarez and **Nora Gomez, (**difficult to understand in birth certificate)
Mother: Isabel Alvarez daughter of Fabian Alvarez and Maria Fernandez
I believe that Emilio and Isabel were deceased by 1940
My grandfather died at age 56 in Cuba

I have his birth certificate and would like to find his baptismal records, any possible information about my great grandparents, such as where they may be buried, lived, relatives, etc. I would like to continue my search and someday visit Asturias.

My grandfather had 6 or 7 brothers and sisters, two where twins, the twins and one other brother died in a war.

His obituary lists possible names of his brothers and sisters:
Maria Alvarez Alvarez
Jaime Alvarez Alvarez
Manuel Alvarez Alvarez
Aurelio Alvarez Alvarez
Alfredo Alvarez Alvarez

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Me gustaria saber cualquier informacion sobre lo siguiente:
El Pueblo de Morcin
El Pueblo de San Sebastian
La Guerra por la cual mucho emigraron siendo ninos de Asturias durante los anos 1910 – 1914 …. Cual guerra era? Existe una lista de fallecidos durante esta/s Guerra/s de esos tiempos?
Familias de Morcin, San Sebastian: Alvarez/Gomez/Fernandez
Porque abuelo decia que era de Oviedo si nacio en Morcin, su documentos listaban Morcin, Oviedo Asturias como su lugar de nacimiento

Aqui les cuento lo que se sobre mis antepasados por lo cual me gustaria aberiguar cualesquiera informacion sea posible sobre ellos.
Mi abuelo cullo nombre era:
Amador Alvarez Alvarez
Nace en Morcin Abril 24, 1900
Cuando nacio es possible que vivieran en La Foz
Abuelo emigro a Cuba con 13 anos
Llego a Cuba Mayo 1, 1913, en el vapor Alfonso XII.
Sus padres que eran primos se llamaban:
Padre: Emilio Alvarez –{Natural de San Sebastian}
Emilio era hijo de hijo de Jose Alvarez y “Nora Gomez” {No se entiende bien **}
Madre: Isabel Alvarez
Isabel era hija de Fabian Alvarez y Maria Fernandez

Para 1940 sus padres ya habian fallecido.
Abuelo murio a los 56 anos en Cuba

Ya tengo el acta de nacimiento de mi abuelo en la cual entiendo casi todo exepto el nombre de su abuela paterna**. Tampoco dice donde nacieron sus abuelos. Ahora me falta encontrar la fe de bautizo y continuar indagando.

Tengo entendido que abuelo tenia 6 o 7 hermanos, incluyendo un par de gemelos, los gemelos y otro hermano mas murio en la Guerra, no se cual guerra.
En su obituario aparecen estos nombres, creo serian sus hermanos/as:

Maria Alvarez Alvarez
Jaime Alvarez Alvarez
Manuel Alvarez Alvarez
Aurelio Alvarez Alvarez
Alfredo Alvarez Alvarez
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the forum!

This message explains the meaning of "Oviedo":
http://www.asturianus.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2224

The war our grandparents wanted to avoid was in Morocco. There were a series of "Rif Wars" fought from 1893 to 1926. There were three Rif Wars: 1893-94, 1909-10, and 1920-26, but during this entire period there was continuous conflict, much of it brutal. The Spaniards were often poorly trained and equipped and their officer corps is said to have been corrupt.
http://www.balagan.org.uk/war/rif-wars/index.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rif_War_%281909%29

If your grandfather was born in Morcín, then his baptism certificate could be in a church there, or even in data held in Oviedo. Try this first:
http://www.asturianus.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3670

If you really want to search for the records of your great-grandparents, the best solution would be to go yourself and allow several days or even a week to do the research. You'll also want to be sure to go when the offices you need aren't on vacation.

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¡Bienvenido al foro!

Este mensaje explica el significado de "Oviedo":
http://www.asturianus.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2224

La guerra que nuestros abuelos querían huir era en Marruecos. Hubo una serie de Guerras del Rif luchados desde 1893 hasta 1926. Hubo tres guerras del Rif: 1893-94, 1909-10, 1920-26 y, aunque durante todo este período hubo un conflicto continuo, y en gran parte brutal. Los españoles fueron a menudo mal entrenados y mal equipados y se dice que su cuerpo de oficiales era corrupto.
http://www.balagan.org.uk/war/rif-wars/index.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rif_War_%281909%29

Si tu abuelo nació en Morcín, su partido de bautismo podría estar en una iglesia allí, o incluso en los datos contenidos en Oviedo. Intente esto primero:
http://www.asturianus.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3670

Si realmente deseas buscar los documentos de tus bisabuelos, la mejor solución sería que visites y que dejes algunos días o incluso una semana para hacer la investigación. También sería importante estar seguro de ir cuando las oficinas que necesitas no son de vacaciones.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The town you're looking for is "La Foz de Morcín", since Morcín is the county, and there are other towns called La Foz i other counties.

The Registry for Morcín is as follows

Registro Civil - Ayuntamiento de Morcin
Av. de Pumarín, 3
33162 Santa Eulalia - Morcín - Asturias
Tel.: 34-985 78 31 78
Fax: 34-985 78 31 92

They are a small office and very helpful. If you call, they will surely try to help. I know the librarian there.
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