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Camandula



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:33 pm    Post subject: Brad Pitt in Avilés Reply with quote

Yesterday I saw Brad Pitt in El Carbayedo.

http://www.lne.es/aviles/2009/08/31/brad-pitt-busca-parcela-aviles/802054.html

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Ayer vi a Brad Pitt en El Carbayedo.

http://www.lne.es/aviles/2009/08/31/brad-pitt-busca-parcela-aviles/802054.html
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Art
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, that's an interesting story, Camandula. I didn't know Pitt had an interest in architecture.

Has Asturias become like a charity that needs the help of a celebrity spokesperson or advocate to help it gain public attention and raise funds?

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Sí, es una artículo interesante, Camandula. Yo no sabía que Pitt tiene un interés en la arquitectura.

¿Se ha convertido Asturias en una especie de organización benéfica que necesita la ayuda de una celebridad como portavoz o defensor para ayudarle a ganar la atención del público y recaudar fondos?
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Camandula



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, Art.

From my point of view (I`m architect), Avilés is trying to follow the way Bilbao has reconverted from an heavy industrial city to a turistic one. They used the Guggeheim museum as "atraction point". Avilés is using the Niemeyer Cultural Centre for it.

Avilés is making a great effort to become a cultural reference in northern Spain. During the last years a lot of famous people has been invited to our town: Omar Shariff, Norman Foster, Brad Pitt, Paulo Coelho, Bob Dylan (Dylan didn't come, but he promised to), etc., but oriented in a cultural way.

In fact, Brad Pitt's visit wasn't announced in any media until today, the day before he arrived. Everyone knew about his visit because people saw him walking by the city as another tourist, not by the media.

Avilés is trying to attract the attention on the big proyects that are being developing here, because it always has been like "the poor and ugly sister" of Oviedo (rich and stilish) and Gijón (big and popular). But I don´t think at all that it's a search of funds as you say, like a charity org searching for the help of famous people.

It's like the city saying: "Forget about steel factories. I´m waking up, see what I can do".


About Pitt's interest in architecture, I think it's a kind of "temporary hobbie". I don´t take it very seriously... He became a Frank Ghery (a very overvalued architect from my point of view) fanatic not long time ago.

Greetings from Avilés.

Wink

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Hola Art:

En mi opinión (soy arquitecta), Avilés etá intentando seguir la estela de Bilbao, que ha sufrido una reconversión de ciudad industrial a turística. Utilizaron el museo Guggenheim como “punto de atracción”. Avilés está utilizando el Centro Cultural Niemeyer.

Avilés se está esforzando para convertirse en referencia cultural del norte de España. Durante los últimos años muchos famosos han venido invitados: Omar Shariff, Norman Foster, Brad Pitll, Paulo Coelho, Bob Dylan (Dylan no vino, pero prometió que lo hará), etc., pero todo orientado a la cultura.

De hecho, no se ha anunciado la visita de Brad Pitt en los medios de comunicación hasta hoy. Llegó ayer. La gente supo que estaba aquí porque le vieron pasear por la ciudad como un turista más, no se enteraron por los medios.

Avilés está intentando llamar la atención sobre los grandes proyectos que se están desarrollando en la ciudad, porque siempre ha sido la “hermana fea y pobre” de Oviedo (rica y estilosa) y Gijón (grande y popular). Pero no creo, en absoluto, que se trate de búsqueda de fondos como dices, como una organización benéfica en búsqueda del apoyo de famosos.

Es como si la ciudad dijera: “Olvidemos las grades industrias del acero. Me estoy despertando. Veamos qué se puede hacer”.

En cuanto al interés de Pitt en la arquitectura, creo que es más bien “un hobbie temporal". No me lo tomo muy en serio… Se hizo fan de Frank Ghery no hace mucho (un arquitecto sobrevalorado, en mi opinión).

Saludos desde Avilés.
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Art
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, Avilés *does* have a lot of wonderful old architecture and interesting neighborhoods, so it could be a tourist destination.

I realize that Bilbao has the Guggenheim, but does Bilbao also have a significant local arts community: artists, writers, musicians, actors, etc.? Does Avilés?

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Pues, sí, Avilés tiene mucha arquitectura antigua maravillosa y barrios interesantes, así que podría ser un destino turístico.

Me doy cuenta de que Bilbao tiene el Guggenheim, pero también tiene una amplia comunidad artística local: artistas, escritores, músicos, actores, etc.? ¿Avilés tiene un comunidad artística?
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is
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excuse my lack of tolerance on the topic of Areces (the Asturian president), but his photo opp with Brad Pitt in Aviles is nothing short of a starf*cking. The peak of his political ideology is having his picture taken next to a famous person so he can advance his vision-less policies.

I tried to explain this verb (starf*cking) to an Asturian friend yesterday, but could not come up with a local equivalent. After seeing the picture, there was a compelling instinct to give Pitt's publicist the lowdown on Areces and his government. I have, so far, refrained.

As for Aviles being the ugly duckling of the 3 Central Asturian cities, I think we'd all agree. But its use as yet another political instrument for the FSA (the ruling party in Asturias for 30 years) is objectionable, no matter how bad the town would like to gentrify its image.

Here is a blogger's entry speculating how much money may have been involved in bringing the actor to Asturias:

http://xuanxose.blogspot.com/2009/08/cuanto-costo-brad-pitt.html

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Perdonai la pouca tolerancia que-y teno al tema d'Areces. Pero la sua semeya xunta Brad Pitt n'Aviles aveirase muitu al verbo ingles starf*cking (habeis poner una 'u' en cuenta'l asteriscu). El cumal de la sua ideoloxia politica ia sacase la foto de prensa con una persona celebre pa tirar alantre cona sua politica ensin vision.

Tentara l'outru dia desplicar a un amigu asturianu lu que quier decir el verbo starf*cking, pero nun toupara un equivalente local. Despueis de ver la primera paxina d'ayer (1 setiembre 2009) na LNE pense en manda-y un correu al publicista de Pitt pa que sepan con quien tan tratando. Pero inda nun lo fixera.

No cincante Aviles, cuido que tamos toos d'alcuerdu que de las 3 ciudades asturianas ia la que tien la imaxen mas probe. Sicasi, eso nun quier decir que tea a favor d'utilizala cumo preseo publicitario (outru mas) pa la FSA, el partiu goberando n'Asturias 30 anos.

Echai un gueyu a esti post de Xuan Xose Sanchez Vicente au fala de las perras que costou afalar a Brad Pitt pa que fora a Aviles:

http://xuanxose.blogspot.com/2009/08/cuanto-costo-brad-pitt.html


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Art
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I read the article, a petty corner of my brain remembered that when I "met" Areces this summer, he looked at me for a mili-second while shaking my hand before he looked away and completely ignored me. He was still shaking my hand as he turned away. I was impressed by the ultra rudeness. He gave me no opportunity to say a thing. Maybe I should have kept holding on to his hand! Ha!

Obviously, Brad got a bit more attention. I suppose I'm not quite as cute as Brad, eh?!

Well, we laughed about the event, but it created a strong impression (negative).

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Cuando leí el artículo, un mezquino rincón de mi cerebro recordó que cuando "encontré" a Areces este verano, me miró para un mili-segundo mientras nos damos la mano antes de que apartó la mira y me ignoró completamente. Todavía estábamos dando la mano, cuando se dio la vuelta. Me impresionó la súper mala educación. No me dio la oportunidad de decir una cosa. ¡Quizás debería haber mantenido agarrado la mano! ¡Ja!

Obviamente, Brad recibió un poco más atención. Supongo que no soy tan guapo como Brad, ¿¡eh?!

Pues, nos reímos sobre este suceso, pero era impresionante (negativamente).
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Camandula



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with your about Areces. He's not a good politician. I met him several times, in building inaugurations, etc.
He only worries about being in the photos and eat as much as he can.

Areces has passed his time to retire, but he's like a "llámpara" in his seat at the goverment. He also has few old friends in the Asturias goverment that are well known because of their null political capacity.
It's time for a political change.

Avilés was has always been "left apart" by the Asturian Goverment. Also, Aviles city council has always been known by the internal fights between Izquierda Unida and PSOE, where surprinsingly, the PSOE goverment of Asturias never took part, neither to help local PSOE.

The last municipal lelections showed an important risisng of the PP (Partido Popular) and other similar politically oriented alternatives.


In this video you can see Pitt avoiding to shake Areces hand because of
the rests of tortilla de patata in the president's hand:
Laughing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqvGNUdWDE4


P.D.: Sorry if my english is not good. Embarassed

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Estoy de acuerdo con vosotros respecto a Areces. No es un buen político. He coincidido con él en varias ocasiones, en inauguraciones de edificios, etc. Sólo se preocupa de salir en las fotos y de comer todo lo que pueda.

Areces debería haberse jubilado, pero es como una “llámpara” en su sillón del gobierno. Le quedan pocos viejos amigos en el gobierno asturiano muy conocidos por su nula capacidad política.
Es hora de un cambio político.

El gobierno asturiano siempre ha “dado de lado” a Avilés. Además, el ayuntamiento de Avilés siempre ha sido famasos por sus luchas internas entre Izquierda Unida y el PSOE en las que, sorprendentemente, el gobierno de Asturias del PSOE, nunca ha tomado parte, ni siquiera para ayudar al PSOE local.

Las últimas elecciones municipales han evidenciado una subida importante del PP (Partido Popular) y de otras alternativas de orientación política similar.

En este vídeo podéis ver a Pitt evitando estrechar la mano de Areces debido a los restos de tortilla de patata que el presidente tenía en la mano.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqvGNUdWDE4
Very Happy
P.D. Disculpad si mi inglés no es bueno.
Embarassed
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Berodia



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

La pregunta que hay que hacer es la siguiente:

¿Cuánto nos costó a los asturianos el viaje de este actor promocionando los chanchullos urbanísticos arecistas?

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The question is:

How much did this trip cost Asturians so this actor promotes Areces' urban fiddles?
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Art
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Camandula wrote:
... about Areces... He only worries about being in the photos and eat as much as he can.
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It's time for a political change.
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P.D.: Sorry if my english is not good. Embarassed

Ha, ha... That's funny about the photos and eating.

Yes, it's clear that Asturias needs a change. Any party that rules for more than 10-15 years is going to become too self-satisfied and self-serving. Then again, I'm not sure PP has the necessary vision and creative thinking to take advantage of the weakness of PSOE. They might, for example, co-opt some of the issues in which PSOE has been leading and take a true lead in doing something about those issues. Legalization of Asturianu might be one, as would the establishment of eco-parks like the one Llames has talked about

Camandula, your English is generally good, but it would definitely help us understand some of the awkward phrases if you translated your messages into Spanish, too. Also, many of our members can't read English, so it would help them if you wrote in both languages. (The forum is a great place to practice the languages!)

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Ja, ja ... eso de los fotos y comer es gracioso.

Sí, está claro que Asturias necesita un cambio. Cualquier partido que gobierna por más de 10-15 años va a ser demasiado satisfecho de sí mismo y egoísta. Por otra parte, no estoy seguro de que PP tiene la visión y el pensamiento creativo necesario para aprovechar de la debilidad de PSOE. Podrían, por ejemplo, adoptar algunas de las temas en que PSOE ha estado al frente y así tomar una ventaja verdadera por avanzar en esas problemas. La legalización de Asturianu podría ser uno. Otro sería la creación de parques ecológicos como el que se ha hablado Llames.

Camandula, cuando escribes en inglés generalmente se puede entender muy bien, pero sin duda nos ayudaría a comprender algunas de las frases torpes si traduces los mensajes al español, también. Además, muchos de nuestros miembros no pueden leer en inglés, por lo que les ayudaría si escribes en ambos idiomas. (¡El foro es ideal para practicar los idiomas!)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Berodia wrote:
... ¿Cuánto nos costó a los asturianos el viaje de este actor promocionando los chanchullos urbanísticos arecistas?


¿Berodia, piensas que pagaron a Pitt?
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Berodia, do you think they paid Pitt?
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is
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Berodia wrote:
¿Cuánto nos costó a los asturianos el viaje de este actor promocionando los chanchullos urbanísticos arecistas? How much did the Asturian taxpayers pay to promote the urban planning projects of the Areces regime?


Good question and I agree entirely with the logic. As I've mentioned before, I'd hate to pay taxes in Asturias given the mediocrity of the FSA, its complete disregard for real economic policy and its rent-seeking attitude, as well as its disdain for Asturian culture. Having just paid taxes in France last week (and it was no humble sum), I would go ballistic here in Asturias...

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Tou d'alcuerdu dafeitu cona pregunta de Berodia ya la sua loxica. Cumo dixera n'outru filu, nun me prestaria nin un res tar pagando impuestos n'Asturias. Tien que ver cono que you percibo cumo la fonda mediocrida de la FSA, el xeitu nulu que tien pa cona politica economica, la sua actitud de rentismo perpetuo ya'l odiu que tien pa cona cultura asturiana. Despueis de pagar impuestos en Francia la selmana pasao (ya nun fonon poucos), pondriame 'balistico' fadiendo lo mesmo n'Asturias...
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is
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Art wrote:
...he looked at me for a mili-second while shaking my hand before he looked away and completely ignored me. He was still shaking my hand as he turned away. I was impressed by the ultra rudeness...me miró para un mili-segundo mientras nos damos la mano antes de que apartó la mira y me ignoró completamente. Todavía estábamos dando la mano, cuando se dio la vuelta. Me impresionó la súper mala educación.


That's pretty crass, Art, and an obvious indicator of what Areces is really like: a political animal that craves power to the extreme in the name of faceless constituents. Thanks for the anecdote. Now you probably sense better than I can what the nature of Asturian politicians of the PSOE/FSA is like. They fill their propaganda with arguably good concepts (solidarity, social justice, equality: all good things in everyone's vocabulary). Then they turn around and take advantage of the goodwill. They are an utter farce.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What he does crave really is public power. I know it very well since he was also 16 years as the mayor of my city.

Just a few hours after he made the photo with Brad Pitt in Avilés, he was making himself the photo again with Laporta, Quini and Preciado before the Barça - Sporting football match would begin...

But he's not only one. It's the main feature of the spanish politician Neutral
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maestro Tomberi's message has given me an idea. Would it be helpful to expose this photo-opportunity posturing on a website, with some humor thrown in?

Oh, boy, I don't know that I want to be that politically active, but I'd envision this as a site that exposed the hypocricy of politicians of any party.

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El mensaje de Tomberi Maestro me ha dado una idea. ¿Sería útil desenmascarar este "hacer poses con oportunidades de sacar fotos" (vaya debe ser un modo de decirlo más sencillo) en un sitio web, con un poco de humor también?

¡Aye, madre mía, no sé que quiero ser tan políticamente activo, pero imagino de esto como una página que expuso la hipocresía de los políticos de cualquier partido.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi everyone!

How are you all doing? I hope you're fine.

It is obvious this Pitt's visit has raised people's hackles. Reading commentaries in La voz de Avilés digital edition confirmed my expectations.

Some say he received 12.000€ plus expenses. I don't know whether this is true or not. But of course he was paid. Any doubts? How come Pitt would have come to Avilés any other way? Shocked

And it's not a matter of the city being ugly or that doesn't have interest. It's just that I don't imagine Brad Pitt waking up one morning thinking of coming here.

Best regards,
Ana

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¡Hola a todo!

¿Qué tal estáis? Espero que bien.

Es evidente que la visita de Pitt ha levantado ampollas. Leyendo comentarios en la edición digital de La voz de Avilés se confirmaron mis expectativas.

Algunos dicen que recibió 12.000€ más gastos. No sé si esto es cierto o no. Pero por supuesto que cobró. ¿Alguna duda? ¿Por qué si no hubiera venido Pitt a Avilés? Shocked

Y no porque la ciudad sea fea o no tenga interés. Es sólo que no me imagino a Pitt despertándose una mañana y pensando en venir aquí.

Saludos,
Ana
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